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law school in three parts of yale law school on the supreme court for corporately no other law schools in the united states. [laughter] besides those two. it is a bizarre and unfortunate fact i think. but those are help interesting facts about the supreme court. but, frankly, i don't think they're very important. here's an important fact about the supreme court. there are five republicans and four democrats. i will speak for somewhat longer, but this is basically all you need to know. [laughter] if there's a take away here, i've gotten to the point early. there are five republicans and four democrats, and that really tells you much of what you need to know. and it is true that the justices wear robes because they're supposed to look all alike, and this was, you know, supposed to give the perception that they're all pretty much the same. but just as on the other side of first street, the united states congress is deeply divided, according to party, so was the united states supreme court. and this is a moment of real partisan division at the supreme court. and that is exemplified in case
that gap. there are six product of harvard law school and three products at yale on the supreme court. there are apparently no other law schools in the united states besides those two. it is a bizarre and unfortunate fact i think actually. but those are i hope interesting facts about the supreme court. but frankly i don't think that they are very important. here is an important fact about the supreme court. there are five republicans and four democrats. i will speak for somewhat longer. but this is basically all you need to know. if there is a takeaway i've gotten to the point earlier there are five republicans and four democrats and that tells you much of what you need to know. it is true the justices where the roads because they are supposed to look alike and it's supposed to give the perception that they are all pretty much the same. but just as the united states congress is a deeply divided according to the party, so is the united states supreme court, and this is a moment of partisan division at the supreme court, and of that is exemplified in case after case. why this is of impo
here was the issue. the pennsylvania passes this new voter i.d. law in march. people that didn't have a driver's license, a government-issued photo i.d. could get the michigan state identification card. then the state said that can be used to board airplanes. we need all sorts of forms of identification. then the state changed its mind and said we'll issue a voter i.d. card that's different. only if you can't get the other card. then they changed their mind on that. the judge said i can't be sure. even though the state has now cured a lot of these problems, i can't be sure enough people are going to be able to get the right kind of identification to allow this law to go into effect. i'm going to let the state continue to educate people about the need for photo i.d. i'm going to let the state ask for photo i.d. atle positive, but enjoin the part of the law that requires voters to have photo i.d. people wanted it all put on hold. the judge said i don't need to go that far. there is always the possibility the state could go back to the supreme court on this, but begin how skeptica
law enforcement agency. here is how the homeland security chief talked about it earlier this year about the 77 centers around the country. >> it's the heart of our prevention strategy. how do we prevent a successful terrorist attack in the united states, looking at threats from abroad and threats from within. >> reporter: but the reality is according to the investigation, reports were often generated by violating civil liberties and misusing taxpayer funds by buying big screen tvs to monitor the channels. here is part of homeland's security's response. the committee report is out of date, inaccurate and misleading. in preparing the report the committee refused to review relevant data including relevant information pertinent to their findings. senator susan collins is concerned and said in a statement as responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars the dhs must insure that the dollars are spent in ways that enhance our security. the report says they often produced reports that were irrelevant or useless. jamie: both president obama and governor romney have a chance to recharge the race
casting their presidential ballot next month. a judge has put a temporary hold on the state's new law. abc's t.j. winick explains. >> reporter: 93-year-old vivian applewhite cast her first vote for president back in 1932 for franklin roosevelt. but because she didn't have the required documents to obtain a photo i.d. she almost didn't have a chance to vote this november. it turns out applewhite will be able to vote after a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial new voter i.d. law from taking full effect before the presidential election. >> at the end of the day this is a victory for democrats because they can argue that no longer would the kind of voters that they want to bring to the polls are encouraged to go to the polls will be turned away. at the same time, for republicans, winning pennsylvania was always a stretch. >> reporter: under the ruling voters can still be asked for identification but can't be discouraged from voting or disenfranchised if they dent have the proper i.d. >> they can go ahead and vote anyway. but the safe bet is to have i.d. and speed the whole process. >> r
if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania to ask some questions about voting there in that state this year. this is what we got. listen to this. it's amazing. remember, legally you can vote even if you don't have an i.d. in pennsylvania in this election. you can. listen. >> thank you for calling the pennsylvania department of state bureau of commissions, elections, and legislation. press one for english. press one for information on pennsylvania's new voter i.d. law. press two for -- >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's wha
i.d. law from taking full effect before the presidential election. >> at the end of the day this is a victory for democrats because they can argue that no longer would the kind of voters that they want to bring to the polls are encouraged to go to the polls will be turned away. at the same time, for republicans, winning pennsylvania was always a stretch. >> reporte voters can still be asked for identification but can't be discouraged from voting or disenfranchised if they dent have the proper i.d. >> they can go ahead and vote anyway. but the safe bet is to have i.d. and speed the whole process. >> reporter: supporters of voter i.d.s say the laws weren't passed to exclude voters just to protect against voepter fraud. critics say the real issue is voter suppression, not voter fraud, pointing out nearly every state legislature that passed tougher voter i.d. laws is controlled by republicans. >> this is a victory today for the people and a loss for the scheming and lying legislators in harrisburg who thought they could hijack the presidential election. >> reporter: the judge's
is the lack of enforcement of u.s. law. along the border we had two people shot yesterday. one man died. with everything from president obama on june 15, with the dream act, a few days ago governor brown decided to give drivers' licenses to illegals. i think we are creating a lot of jeopardy and risk for our people along the border. a piecet's look at about immigration and governor mitt romney, softening his stance on immigration and other issues according to usa today, trying to keep conservative appeal as he courts undecided voters. he told one denver newspaper that he would not revoke temporary visas in what appears to be his latest attempt to soften his tone on key issues. he told the post in an interview that those who qualified for deferred action programs would be permitted to stay for the allotted term. of course, candidate mitt romney, here is what the article goes on to say. his decision to take a nuanced position on the issues two weeks after he dodged a question on the issue. the last caller also mentioned the death of a border agent. here is a story on that. host: we are as
if they use the name of a law enforcement agency. it is not legitimate and if it happened to you, your computer han compromised and you want to make sure it is virus-free before you use it again. >> for more information, go to our website, wusa9.com. we will link you to the latest from the fbi. anita. >> american university is getting the word out about recent groping assaults near campus. they happened along massachusetts avenue between the birkshire apartments. >> reporter: campus police are alerting the community about these incidents. there have been four since september 24. all involving women here of students of american university. >> it is scary when you know something is happening. >> don't want it happening to any of my friends and ashamed it had to happen in the first place. >> reporter: students are on alert. >> we like to think that on college campuses, it's more liberal and that we are safe because we are in this close community, but it puts things back into perspective. >> women told police they were groped by a man in a hooded sweatshirt. each incident was in th
state courts could negate some of the new laws that are intended to require photo i.d.s for voters? >> the first observation is in terms of that case in maryland, that was one misguided example where it never should have happened, the race wasn't that close, so it was a huge mistake by that individual and he paid for it with time in prison. in terms of your concern about voter i.d., and having to show i.d., i live in virginia i just got my voter card. they allow anything like a utility bill or anything like that. it's a lot easier to go vote in america than get on an airplane. so if you're worried about fraud, i think these are reasonable requirements. >> i guess in terms of polling, to the extent that our firms can, we try to poll off a registered voter list so they are registered voters who presumably have -- and in elections we try to sample people who not only register but have voted in past elections. >> but this year the requirements for voting are not going to be just that you register, they're going to be that you have a voter i.d. how do you account for that? >> we ask the
protection project. ms. rotunda is a former army jag attorney and a military law pro first at chapman university. kendra, welcome. >> thank you. >> what's going on here? are you saying in this that the absentee ballot process which supposedly was improved by law is not working? and so the men and women can't vote? >> it's not working and it's not working because the pentagon simply is not following the law. they're ignoring federal law. they're supposed to have military voter registration on federal bases and they're just not doing it. and it's leading to what we think are going to be record lows in military rovoter turnou by as great as 70% dips in key states like virginia and ohio. >> if i were a cynic, if i were a cynic i would say this is because polls show 60% of military voters vote republican. now, would i be too cynical? >> you know, who knows? but what really matters is it doesn't matter how they vote, it matters that they vote. and this is clearly frustrating their right, their opportunity, to be able to cast a ballot this election year. and the pentagon frankly seems not to
for a second that a new set of laws were passed. as quickly as they are passed coming election lawyers figure out how to get around them. it is remarkable. what i support getting the money back into the candidates' campaigns? absolutely. i have worked for two million politicians in my life. the rank-and-file should be approaching somebody who is self-funding to be able to raise larger amounts. but i think there should be far more accountability for the electorate and far more transparency. from my perspective, i think it is better for the country if we went back to that model. >> i don't know that i necessarily agree with the assumption of the question. if you saw the american crossroads ad in which you see the groups do. should the elected representeive do what he thinks is right or what the electorate thinks is right? the important thing to take away from that is the there is this tension between what the elected representative wants to do and with the electorate wants to do. no one wants to run for office to cast a lever. you want to run because you believe in something. nobody wants to ju
set of laws is past. as quickly as they are passed election was figure out how to get around them. it's remarkably to campaign finance is a constant evolving issue. i think there's got to be mechanism, i work for to, million of politicians and my life. i believe there should be a mechanism for rank-and-file people should you be opposing some who so funny tempers a millionaire to be able to raise large amounts. i believe putting the money back have more accountability for the electorate and a much more integrity driven process an issue you're dreading to frame an election. sunday personally just. that's my from make money off these campaigns? absolutely. but from my perspective i think it's better for the country if we go back to that model. >> i don't know if i would necessary agree with that. look at what, i don't know if you saw the american crossroads add what super pacs actually to end with advertising does. a lot of people in here, remember the question in political science 101, should be elected representative do what he believes is right or what constituents because right? you
's assume a new set of laws is passed. as quickly as they are passed, election lawyers figure out how to get around them. it is remarkable. it's constantly evolve issue. would i support moving the money back to the candidates. absolutely. i think there has to be a mechanism i worked for two millionaire politicians. i believe there should be a mechanism for rank and file. to be able to raise larger amounts. but i believe putting the money back in the candidate account create more accountability and much more integrity driven process to frame an election. me personally yes. and, you know, does my firm make money off the kinds of campaign. absolutely. from my perspective i think it's better for the country if we went back to that model. >> can i answer? >> i don't know that i agree with the assumption of the question. if you look at what -- [inaudible] look at what super pac actually do and what the advertising does, everyone in here age lot of people in the political times remember the question in political times 101 should the elected representative do what he believes is right or what the co
to vote. in the real world it is a consequence of what people believe the law is in pennsylvania. before the ruling this week, when the law stated that you did need an id to vote. here is what votespa.com told voters. here is what the splash page website greets voters as of earlier this week. that small print after the judge's ruling, after it became clear that you do not need to have an id to vote in pennsylvania, you are welcome at the polling place, here is how they changed the website, you ready? look at that difference. oh yes, there it is. a change in the small print. but the impression is pretty much the same. if you don't have a driver's license don't show up. this is going on in other states. states where they were not able to change the law. where there is still an effort to make people think they need an id to vote. in idaho, here is what the state is distributing. bring your id and vote. you hear about things like this every election year. it is another thing for it to be your state. your state using your tax dollars to miss inform you about your rights. so you decided to cal
it for that purpose. doing this is a way of achieving kind of, sticking to the current law baseline paths of revenue and spending. not necessarily in the exact timing or form that the current law baseline looks right now but sticking with the essential elements. so those of you who know me know that i obsessed over the current law baseline. i'm quite fond of it and in the past i said what we need to do is follow strict pay as you go. i'm tired of this exempting this, ignoring that. let's stick to strict pay as you go. the next time we kick the can down the road we have to commit to paygo and no exceptions. i will modify that today. instead of paygo it is rego. recycle as you go. use every bit of essential elements but keep moving forward. set targets thaw achieve that congress will by x date, use y percent of the cans that we've kicked down the road. in terms of achieving the same amount of deficit reduction over the 10-year window. just use the budge -- budget committees and budge budget process to enforce this. to come up with reforms that achieve certain spending or revenue targets. the tpc's ana
beaten to death. was written cabin" very much as a protest novel to the fugitive a state law or anyone in the north, including new england, with the abolitionists and -- if anyone in the northwest to aid or abet a fugitive slave, they themselves would be imprisoned or fine for breaking the law. this was seen as a compromise between the north and south to avoid war. that was part of what the novel was trying to do, to say, listen, i am a person, harriet beecher stowe, and i'm against slavery, as was much of new england, and i just my right to call a slave who finds him or herself -- t.s. my right to help the slave who finds him or herself within our borders. >> more about it. beecher stowe this weekend as -- or about. beecher stowe this weekend as we look behind the history and literary history of augusta, maine. sunday at 5:00 p.m. on american history tv on c-span3. >> almost 20 years ago, we broadcast one of the most controversial stories in our 44 years on the air. it was called "yes, but is it art?" at was accused of being a philistines, someone without the ability to appreciate con
the law they are required to do that. i am delighted to see that the administration is following the law. [applause] >> excuse me, this will be out of my time, not yours, knowing and cherishing the people of this city and knowing their restraint and different dense -- diffidence, i bee seach -- i beseach you, try to hold your applause, please. >> i have to comment on the comment the vice president made. if you take af d.c. , food stamps, go down the line on poor people's programs, those are the programs that suffered considerably under a different administration, first budget cuts, and those are the ones in the second part of their terms, we were able to restore some of those terribly unfair cuts to the poor people of this country. >> vice president bush. >> maybe we can have experts go to the books. they will do it anyway. spending for foods food stamps is way, way up under the reagan administration. af d.c. is up under the reagan administration. and i am not going to be found wrong on that. i am sure on my facts. we are trying to help, and i think we are doing a reasonable job. we are
. >>> a pennsylvania judge is expected to rule today on whether to uphold the state's new law requiring voters to show photo identification. the law was passed by the republican-controlled state legislature and vigorously opposed by democrats. at issue is whether the law will prevent any registered voter from casting a ballot. democrats claim it will make it harder for their traditional voters, young adults and minorities to vote. >>> overseas. the foreign minister of syria there accused the u.s. and its allies of promoting terrorism and escalating the fighting in syria. speaking before the united nations general assembly yesterday, he criticized calls for president bashar alassad to sit down. one activist group says 40 people were killed yesterday. we're learning more about the taliban attack that killed three americans in afghanistan. a suicide bomber on a motorcycle struck just as a patrol of afghan police and nato troops got out of their vehicles at a market in eastern afghanistan yesterday. in all, 14 people died in the bombing. >>> eight american airlines jets have been grounded so inspectors ca
free. governor jerry brown giving the okay to a law that can release them. >> gregg: shocking numbers, u.s. airlines raked in $2 billion in baggage ties during the first half of the year. that the largest amount ever collected for a six-month period. this as a new report emerges finding passengers are facing more fees than ever before and fewer choices. how about that? anything consumers can do. ed joins us managing partner of investment firm. rise of oil prices make a corresponding rise in jet fuel and 30% of operating costs for the airlines. are the airlines trying to make up for it in other ways like the fees? >> sure. look this is great lesson in economics. it's supply and demand and competition. when there is less competition. usually the quality goes down and prices go up. that is exactly what is happening right now. we have fewer and fewer airlines out there. you have oil prices, gregg, any time oil prices are above $85 a barrel you have a hard time being profitable in the airline industry. >> gregg: that is the tipping point generally? >> it really is. so is this a sign of thi
blocked a key component of that state's new voter i.d. law. voter does not have to show a state-approvedived in order to vote. supporters say it will prevent fraud at the polls but opponents say it is a chance to suppress the democratic minority vote. >>> and mike mcqueary claims in a lawsuit that he was the only assistant football coach not invited to interview for employment under bill o'brien in the wake of the child sex abuse scandal. mcqueary said he witnessed an apparent sexual encounter between sandusky and the boy. >>> a florida woman could face a $500 fine and up to 60 days in jail for hitching a ride on top of a manitee. she turned herself into sheriffs near tampa after this photograph was released to the public. manitees are protected from alleged abuse by florida law. so this picture could get her in serious trouble. >>> the fog settled over new york city right now this morning. this is a live picture of columbus circle. it is foggy and air force two was kept from landing twice yesterday. rob marciano is live from atlanta this morning. >> new york is not the only spo
today when a judge rules whether to keep all of the state's tough new voter i.d. law intact. today's decision follows two days of testimony last week arguing that some requirements were making it difficult for registered voters to get a state issued i.d. >>> the world's famous hollywood sign is getting a makeover. a ten-week project to strip down and repaint the sign's giant letters will begin today ahead of its 90th birthday today. >>> happy birthday to rocker sting. he turns 61. >>> all day long you can stay on top of the very latest developments in those stories and more as they break on msnbc. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams with "nbc nightly news." >>> and, finally, here's a look at what's coming up later this morning on the "today" show. a live report on hollywood's reaction to the announcement that seth mcfarland is hosting the academy awards. >>> and a live performance by a 12-year-old opera superstar. >>> and now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports, and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today," just your first stop
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the song came as a shock. when i got at the record i gave it to my mother-in-law. she said [indiscernible] . >> he was no longer in charge. this man had taken over. it was a moment in pop history , but dealings were mixed in liverpool. part i remember feeling, how long will this last? we all knew this was a big thing. gone.nths later, it's ♪ ♪ >> for a 15-year-old singer it would never be the same again. after this came the madness. >> i'm from liverpool pant i used to sing 60 years ago -- and i used to sing 60 years ago. [indiscernible] it was beatlemania. >> tony barrow was asked to write a press release for the beatles. >> i said, yes. >> the sales, even though it made it to number one locally,. or disappointments >> what happened was people like the fans thinking if we've purchased this single, the beatles will be off to london and we don't want to do that, if we want to keep the beatles right here. >> its a great beginning of the beatles story in pop history, but something special here had come to an end. bbc news, liverpool. >> liverpool's loss was everyone else's gain. let me r
-frank financial reform law. bank of america, j.p. morgan, morgan stanley all up about two and a half%. health care stocks up after romney recommitted to repealing obamacare. leading the sector of more than 3 percent, and the governor's support giving the sector a lift today. up nearly 8%. alpha natural resources, peabody, consol energy also appeared on the date. the market could have been just reacting to a recent economic news, the jobless benefits of 3,607,000 last week. lower than estimates. one day before tomorrow's september unemployment report. factory orders came in better than forecast, but still fell more than 5%, the biggest decline in more than three years the kind of world we live in now, that was actually better than what had been expected. retail chain stores reporting september sales above wall street expectations. oil up more than 4% on middle east supply concerns. crew selling at 9171. gasoline prices in california reaching record highs due to fuel shortages caused by a pipeline shutdown. well, excuse me one second year. forgive me. president obama hitting the campaign trail today
warren used her native american heritage to gain any employment advantage with law school. >> do you consider yourself a minority? >> i listed myself as native american. i was listed there. it's part of who i am. >> reporter: brown argues that warren has not told voters why she switched between calling herself native american on applications. >> she changed her nationality to native american. >> reporter: and later referred to herself as white. >> at the pinnacle of her success when she became tenured at harvard she changed back to being white. >> are you hiding something? >> no, i'm not. i never used it for college, for law school or to get a job. >> reporter: to appeal to democrats who far outnumber republicans here, brown calls himself an independent thinker who works with president obama. >> of course i'm going to be proud to stand with the president. he is our president, and when he does something well, i praise him. >> reporter: but warren hit brown for raising money by tying his re-election to republicans gaining control of the senate. >> when senator brown talks here in massa
taking a stand against a federal law that prohibits them from publicly endorsing political candidates. and now, live from new york city with more on this. >> the candidate, the issues, all are fair game today. preachers taking part in freedom sunday saying bring it on. >> they are challenging the i.r.s. to charge them with violating their tax, sherman status as a religious institutions. pastors say churches belong at front line of america's political frontier. >> to silence the pulpits mean we are abandoning the call to te the moral voice of society. it will not be silence of the lambs. >> this is a challenge to the 1954 johnson amendment preventing nonprofit charities and churches from endorsing or supporting political candidates and was added to the tax code by senator johnson at the time. some say it was way to silence the critics of his policy. an attorney which is organizing the movement says the law is unconstitutional. >> the i.r.s. has no business making a theological determination that certain top ins are off limits if you are having church on the weekend. >> organizations li
this voter i.d. law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if ohio folks don't move in the next days after the debate, time for romney folks to cash in ohio. >> you take the media hit for a couple of days there, but ohio, pennsylvania, they represent a type of voter or a group of voters would know romney needs. tries to make up ground on the auto bailouts saying that is not exactly what i meant at the time, i was really in line with what played out there, we know it was not but the type of voter or the group of voters in ohio that we have talked so much about, white males in particular, working class, middle class people, they are there in that state. >
frankly, then they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. it appears that the law does not apply to police officers. we want them to be justice across the board. we want justice for the family of anthony anderson. >> city police say the two officers involved are suspended with pay while homicide detectives investigate anderson's death. >> good morning. let's start you off with a live view of the radar. this is over the past three hours. we had a few sprinkles move through around the state early on. those have all basically cleared out. looking for nice conditions right now if you plan to be outside. that could change as we get into the afternoon. here's a look at the forecast for today. we're expecting temperatures to be in the low to mid 70s with a mick of clouds and sunshine today. scattered showers are possible especially towards the late afternoon and evening hours. that means after 4 and 5 p.m. in baltimore. that's when you could start to see wet weather. they're likely to be scattered so not everyone will get them. 72 for the high. then 75 tuesday. that's a better chance fo
, not to apply to college, not to apply to law school, and not to get hired for any job. i was listed in a directory as -- i listed myself as native american. i was listed there. it's part of who i am. >> do you consider yourself a minority? >> i consider myself as having a native american background. that's what i said. that's what i am. >> no one is questioning what her parents told her when she was younger or all the way through that time frame. but when she was asked by "the boston herald" why is harvard touting her as a woman of color, a minority, a woman of color, she said she didn't know. and then after five weeks of misleading the papers and the reporters, she said, i self-reported. and she's never answered why she, in fact, did that. >> one of the lines that jumped out at people has been senator brown was interrupted while trying to explain why he voted against democratic-backed bills. >> she's obviously misstating the facts. these are a rejection by both democrats and republicans, professor. if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- >>
decisions about what treatments are given. that is prohibited in the law. >> the president is right on this one. the payment advisory board can make recommendations on drugs and medical devices that will be covered but there is no legal power to ration care. and the president saying premiums have gone up in a slower rate than any time in 50 years but that is not true. interest to and romney said mitdel income americans have seen income drop by $4300 a year, that is way too high showing it's about half of that. is one man telling more facts or better facts than another? we'll take a look what he says is the big difference. it's the money. >> that is interesting. >> according to a poll, april% of the registered voters said the g.o.p. nominee won. >> and the next debate takes place a week from today in danville, kentucky. abc 7 will air that debate live. >> the president will be in san francisco next monday for a fund-raiser at bill graham auditorium. this will be the president's sixth bay area fund raising visit this year. >> there is a crack down from department of justice, nearly 10
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